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it's about truth

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it's about it's about disclosure it's

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about transparency and if it means that

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that that i i don't get my my day in the

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spotlight then that's okay

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because it's not about that never was

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about that i didn't leave the department

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of defense because i wanted my day in

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the spotlight i left the dope harbor in

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the defense ironically enough to finish

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the very mission they gave me in the

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first place i didn't ask for it i'm not

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a ufo guy not a ufologist i never have

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been i never will be i'm a

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counterterrorism and counter espionage

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guy dude counterintelligence counter

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insurgencies that's what i do and it

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just so happens that in 2008 i was asked

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to apply those same skill sets into the

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ufo community

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but

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i'm not a ufo guy and so for me it's all

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about the truth whether i'm hunting a

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terrorist or a spy or a ufo the bottom

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line is the truth is the truth

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i'm a counter terrorism and counter

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espionage guy dude counterintelligence

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counter insurgencies that's what i do

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and it just so happens that in 2008 i

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was asked to apply those same skill sets

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into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is the

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truth i'm a counter-terrorism a

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counter-espionage guy and that dude

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counterintelligence counter insurgencies

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that's what i do and it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is the

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truth it just so happens that in 2008 i

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was asked to apply those same skill sets

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into the ufo community the bottom line

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is the truth is the truth i'm a

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counter-terrorism and counter-espionage

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guy dude counterintelligence counter

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insurgencies that's what i do the bottom

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line is the truth is the truth i'm a

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counter-terrorism and counter-espionage

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guy

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counterintelligence counterinsurgencies

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that's what i do the bottom line is the

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truth is the truth it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is a tree

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the central intelligence agency is set

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up to deceive that's what their

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job is in fact counterintelligence lou

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counterintelligence means i have to lie

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you know that's my job

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so uh what is counterintelligence what

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are some of the methods that's

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something that the ufo field could study

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instead of people going off about did

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lou make a comment you know that doesn't

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go anywhere what is that going to do for

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you who cares about louis zondo

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ultimately except as a pawn of the cia

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threat motion otherwise you know it's

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just dribble right

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so um and how you know it could be

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anybody they could have gotten someone

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else instead in that program and dressed

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them up for the part i don't think

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you know it's not a special kind of

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assignment that they got for lou i just

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think that he kind of fit what they were

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doing and they felt this is a guy who

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can pull it off he's done a lot of

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counterintelligence

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but i think what's important is what is

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counterintelligence just in a nutshell

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i need to

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deceive another country about what my

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activities are militarily

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espionage-wise

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etc

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and i need them to believe that

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something is happening that's totally

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different what is actually happening

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so i need to create a counter narrative

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to the truth

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that's counterintelligence i need to lie

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to get people to believe

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so therefore

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elizondo has a lot of experience he's a

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professional liar that's just a fact

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and

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you you know expecting the truth from

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people like that or the central

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intelligence agency counterintelligence

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agents in general his craziness who

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whoever thought of such a thing

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and um you know so the way they've

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rolled it out and packaged it up and put

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a lot of money behind it and the media

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behind it yes but

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you know i think we've come past a phase

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like you know we're all kind of

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graduating in our own awareness